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Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 6:49 pm
by RoryOF
A utility called mkusb should do that. A quick search will find a source, I have no doubt.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 7:32 pm
by White Phoenix
Linux Mint already had one installed call USB Image Writer, but it had a rather vague description in the menu and software manager. I was doing a search and came across a thread where someone used it to make a bootable USB with persistence. I think my image of Pop was also persistent, but not knowing that, I never tried making any changes like uninstalling LO and installing AOO. :\
Will give a follow up report in this post.
I'm writing this from inside Linux Mint 21.1 on my USB stick. LibreOffice was removed and OpenOffice installed and launched without any problems. Now I still don't understand what the problem is. Considering that I reformatted and re-install 21.1 before on the internal hard drive. Although, on this stick. I didn't bother changing any settings. I just went directly into switching office suites. I didn't even bother to set up Timeshift.
So, if I can start over again, then setup Timeshift before doing anything else. Then remove LibreOffice, install OpenOffice, confirm AOO is working then take a snapshot. I can then go through the settings and test AOO as I go along. There must be one of the settings that interfered with AOO. Once I find it, I can restore to the first snapshot after the re-install. Then setup without using the setting that interfered with AOO. When I find the culprit, I will report back.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:34 pm
by RoryOF
If OpenOffice is running on the Mint on USB stick, it shows the OO _can_ run on Mint 21. If it doesn't run on your Mint installation on main computer, then the problem is probably caused by some other program installed on the main computer.

A long solution is to back up all data, then reformat main computer, install Mint, install OO, check that OO works. Then install applications one by one, checking that OO works after each application is installed.

A possible shortcut: on main computer, have you reinstalled OpenOffice?

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:48 am
by White Phoenix
I did reinstall it. However, Mint was changed in version 19. Mint 21 is very buggy compared to Mint 18. Combine that with my computer being completely changed over from legacy to UEFI and now I can’t even boot in consistently. Well, now I can, but I have to re-install the GRUB every time first. I don’t care about whether a system behaves like Windows or not. I just want an OS and applications that make sense and works intuitively. Call me old-fashioned but I was happier with DOS Shell and Works. I like making desktop icons, but I’ll get over it. Also Linux doesn’t use code pages. It uses Unicode throughout.
So now I’m looking for another more stable Linux. Pop! seems okay, but it’s version of software manager is limited, maybe because it only uses Gnome. It might work with other imported packages though. System76 seems to be a new company, maybe they’d be open to finding or creating software that works better and giving up command line software, if they haven’t already. I’ll try Xubuntu next.
That being said. I can re-install OpenOffice easily. I even created a shell routine to install it. Takes about a minute. The one I used for Mint 18 removed the programs I didn’t want and installed the ones I did in about an hour. Linux uses slightly different terms, but it’s a lot like DOS. Linux is also transparent like DOS. No cryptic registry. So you seem to have an idea. One of the main reasons to use OpenOffice right after installing was to create a spreadsheet of packages to install and remove, since Mint was so different now.
I don’t mean to be picky. It might have something to do with my ADHD. I don’t think computer systems were designed with neural divergent people in mind.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 9:46 am
by RoryOF
I go back to pre-dos operating systems, where we were booting a CPU in machine code.

I moved to linux years ago and have never regretted it. After a few months trying different linux distros, I eventually plumped for Xubuntu (currently using 22.04.4 - 22.04.5 possibly releasing today, I believe), which gave me a simple. clean desktop. If I were not using Xubuntu (Xfce desktop) I might be tempted to use Manjaro Xfce, but would have a little relearning to do in the move away from from a DEB based distro.

distrowatch.com gives a running tabulation of most distros and their current popularity, with live links to their sites.

But it is a personal choice; what is right for one person might be wrong for another.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:47 pm
by White Phoenix
I finally found a tool that actually make persistent live OS on a USB thumb drive that I was able to download and install, Multiboot USB, but it doesn’t work with XUbuntu. :( Nothing on Linux burns DVDs at all, except Brasero, but that’s only good for slideshows and music collections. :?
Yes I like DEB files. It’s why I was able to create an install script that installs everything in about an hour. You can’t do that on Windows. I tried with a batch file.
RoryOF wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:34 pm A possible shortcut: on main computer, have you reinstalled OpenOffice?
What were you going to suggest?

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:14 pm
by RoryOF
White Phoenix wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:47 pm
RoryOF wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 8:34 pm A possible shortcut: on main computer, have you reinstalled OpenOffice?
What were you going to suggest?
A useful starting point for debugging is to re-install, as the last installation, that application that is giving trouble. A case in point was (long ago) when OpenOffice would sometimes not print: this was often solved by a re-installation of the printer drovers.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:22 am
by TonyPenny2
New Linux Mint user, grappling with Apachie OpenOffice refusing to open. Have already tried purging LibreOffice, wiping the system and installing a virgin Linux Mint and purging Libre. Cannot get past the problem of ApachieOO not starting. Presently Apachie and Libre are both purged in hopes of getting a solution to make Apachie OpenOffice work.

Re: OpenOffice not starting on Linux Mint Cinnamon

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:51 am
by RoryOF
A useful diagnostic is to start the program in a terminal, and record the error messages. To start an installed OpenOffice, type openoffice4 in a terminal.